Today, on 28 February 2022, the Savus newspaper published an interview with MEP Irena Joveva and Marjan Šarec, the LMŠ President. You can read it in full below:

Joveva, who was elected from the LMŠ party list, comes from Jesenice. She lives and breathes the values such as honesty, work and solidarity. In Brussels, she is actively co-shaping policies that enable development and a fair transition for regions such as Zasavje, and she is energetically addressing the issues that matter to young people. In the former Yugoslavia, the Jesenice ironworks was one of the important industrial centres. You could say that you come from a place that resembles Zasavje as it used to be.

My father worked in the Acroni steel mill for 40 years, my mother was a cleaner. I am proud of the fact that I come from a working-class family. In a difficult economic situation, my parents searched for a new opportunity in a new environment, starting practically from scratch. They could not spoil me as a child as they simply didn’t have the means for that, but they nevertheless gave me everything. I believe that a working-class background is a good foundation for a healthy attitude to life, because it helps you keep your feet on the ground, in touch with people’s real problems… And yes, it is probably very similar in Zasavje.

Is work still a value?

You know, due to new forms of work and turbulent labour market conditions, it may sometimes seem it is not, but it is. Work most certainly still is a value. At the European level, we have been working very hard over the last two years to ensure that every EU citizen can get a quality job with adequate pay. But providing adequate pay is also linked to providing appropriate education. The resolutions that we are adopting address the potential of the education system in the sense that that the goal of education will not be to get a degree just for the sake of it, but that there will be an increasing focus on vocational and professional education and lifelong learning. Work is and always will be a value. Above all, every type of work deserves respect, and workers should be appreciated and properly rewarded for it.

Innovative stories are being created in Zasavje, too. Here you will find high-tech companies that are becoming important players on the global market, but they are always faced with staffing challenges. This is also because the road to Zasavje, which is in the heart of Slovenia, seems like a road to the end of the world. Everything simply cannot be done remotely. 

We may be aiming for a digital society, but that does not mean that basic infrastructure can be neglected on that account. People need high-speed broadband internet, but they need good public transport connections just as much and, ultimately, modern road connections, including the never-realised tunnel link to the Štajerska motorway. I am convinced that, if this link existed, investors would be keen to exploit the advantages of Zasavje and bring their companies to the region. In this respect, the current Slovenian Government should, first and foremost, make use of the European funds available, primarily from the Just Transition Fund, but also from complementary sources at the national level.

Zasavje very much counts on grants available to coal regions in transition …

… And these funds are not scarce. A total of EUR 538 million will be allocated to Slovenia. The inclusion of your region, alongside the Savinjska region, was one of the greatest achievements of Marjan Šarec’s government. It is true that the scope of programmes for drawing on these funds is limited by the regulation, but there are still many opportunities for using them in a productive manner. At the same time, this allows for the setting of a long-term strategy for the region’s development in terms of green transformation, which must also be based on economic development. To that end, it is essential to have a good vision of the kind of Zasavje you are aiming to achieve. If, after the mining activity was discontinued, the region was left with a surplus workforce and the economy developed rather haphazardly, Zasavje now has an opportunity and a chance to chart a clear development path for itself. Should it strengthen its crafts and business sectors? Attract investors, achieve a breakthrough with high-tech companies? How should it attract the workforce it needs? Does it provide for the necessary housing, schools, kindergartens, what quality of life does it offer? What do the people living here want? Is the local administration able to come up with good projects for the absorption of the development funds that will actually contribute to the region’s growth? All these are tasks that you, the people of Zasavje, have to set for yourselves, and this is what will determine the success of the development strategies and the future of Zasavje. But there is no doubt that the EU will provide substantial help in making these plans a reality.

The future will be highly electrified, and we still haven’t decided which sources we intend to get our electricity from. In Hrastnik, the largest solar power plant in Slovenia has already been built on degraded mining land, and another one is planned.

We can no longer turn a blind eye to the energy crisis. We are in the middle of it. As our electricity consumption grows, we will have to decide which sources will be used for its production. My compliments to the region and the municipality of Hrastnik. Zasavje used to be an energy region once, now it can become a good practice example of the transition to a low-carbon society. There is a political consensus in Slovenia that, in addition to the construction of a new nuclear power plant unit, we urgently need significantly bigger investment in renewable energy sources in order to secure a stable source of energy. In my view, solar energy makes by far the most sense for Slovenia. In addition, the price of solar panels is declining sharply and it is already cheaper than energy produced from other sources. In parallel, this will reduce our need to import raw materials, such as gas. Furthermore, from the point of view of the European legislation, the current investments in solar energy will quickly be recouped because of the polluter pays principle, which is reflected, for example, in the price of emission allowances.

How do you see Slovenia in 20 years? What happened to the dream of becoming the new Switzerland and could we become the Silicon Valley of Europe?

Above all, I see Slovenia as a country where, I hope, the new generation of politicians will be better than – pardon the expression – the current old set. I’m not referring to the new generation that learns its ways primarily from the current power structures, but the one that fights against them. I’m referring to the generation that is aware that it must decide its own future. Young people are becoming more and more politically active and they really can change many things for the better, but they need to be given the chance and taken seriously, because they are not trying to rub anyone up the wrong way, they are fighting for the right cause. After all, they are also fighting for my daughter, who, of course, is not yet able to do so herself in this way, and I hope that – precisely because of the young people who are active now – in 20 years’ time she will not even have to. We have a wonderful country, let it become development-oriented country, a country that is breaking new ground, and, above all, let those at the top take care of their citizens. That is what I want today, tomorrow and in 20 years’ time.

Yet young people are leaving in large numbers. Zasavje, in particular, has a very poor demographic profile.

Youth emigration is a problem faced by many EU countries. It reflects the ambition and desire of young people to build a quality life for themselves. Most often, they leave during or immediately after their studies, when they go out into the world to gain new knowledge and experience. If they return, this is beneficial to their home country, but this depends on the country’s attractiveness and the adequacy of the living conditions. It depends, in particular, on whether the country is successful in tackling housing issues and astronomical rents, in providing adequate education, offering quality and flexible jobs, creating the right conditions for young families, etc. The current government is doing a poor job in youth policy as a whole, which was even more pronounced during the pandemic. This is unacceptable. Creating good conditions for young people and investing in them is an investment in a positive future.

We find ourselves in a super-election year. How does Brussels view political developments in Slovenia?

Concerns did not vanish with the end of Slovenia’s Presidency of the Council of the EU. We are no longer in the forefront to the same extent, but this does not mean that Brussels is unaware of the situation in our country. Everyone hopes for a change to happen and is counting on it happening in April. But the change cannot happen in Brussels; we have to take care of it at home. The claim that all politicians are equally bad, that we are all the same, is not true. Nor is it true that elections do not change anything. You know what really cannot bring about any change? Abstaining from elections. That is why I really want to see a high voter turnout and people realising how important it is for them to go out and vote and to use the power they have. Because they really can demonstrate power.

Marjan Šarec: “You can be an example to us all”

The people of Zasavje are considered to be upright, determined and persistent. It is the tradition of mining that has shaped you this way. Now, you are becoming a globally competitive knowledge hub, a crossroads for new, innovative and clean technologies that not only open up new jobs with higher value added, but are also attractive to young people. This is a great success that cannot be ignored. At the same time, you have driven a major polluter out of your valley. You can be an example to us all.

Last November, when I visited Zasavje with Deputy Rudi Medved, I said that all potentials for the development of your region should be exploited, and that it is essential that all municipalities work together, overcoming the silo mentality, to make more efficient use of the European funds available. The establishment of provinces, which the LMŠ supports, would certainly help to achieve this.

Our Party’s guiding principle is that we build on reality, not illusions. We don’t make big promises, but our promises are realistic, which we try to deliver on. The slogan “Normalisation. Solutions. Development.” confirms this. We have shown – both when in power and opposition – that “we walk the talk” and that the main motives of our political engagement are to co-create a different and better future and to stand up for a fair and better regulated country, our homeland.

Today, on 23 February 2022, MEP Irena Joveva hosted a virtual round table entitled A Vision for a RENEWed European Union as the closing event of a two-day working visit by Stéphane Séjourné, President of the Renew Europe political group in the European Parliament, an MEP and a close associate of French President Emmanuel Macron. Marjan Šarec, LMŠ party president, also participated in the discussion alongside the two hosts, both MEPs, Irena Joveva and Klemen Grošelj.

Initially, everyone present stressed the importance of the April elections in Slovenia, Hungary and also in France. “These are key moments for Europe because national elections are also European elections, which we and the electorate must be aware of. However, the French elections are slightly different as we are trying to re-elect the same president, while you want to find an alternative to the existing government. Nevertheless, I see similarities in particular in terms of the kind of society we want, open or closed,“ Stéphane Séjourné said, noting the importance of liberalism, the power of civil society and the significance of the free market. Marjan Šarec believes that the elections in any Member State affect the stability of the whole European Union, saying, “If one link in the chain is problematic in this regard, it affects everyone. At the moment, Slovenia is among the three problematic countries, which is why elections are so important.” He added that the election on 24 April will be actually a referendum on the kind of country we want to live in. He believes it is crucial for people to exercise their right to vote, because every single vote counts. Irena Joveva also considers European values to be key for the future, which Renew Europe also strongly advocates:

“Our political group is very heterogeneous. We frequently have different views, but we are really united when it comes to the main issues. These are our values. Our principles. The fact that we are unwavering in defending and strengthening European values, the rule of law, civil liberties, fundamental rights, that we are fighting injustice and discrimination, for the freedom of the media… In the European Parliament, we are practically always the ones who tip the scales one way or the other in the decision-making process.”

Stéphane Séjourné added that Renew Europe is addressing the priorities that are at the heart of the political debate about democracy and economic recovery. In the wake of the health crisis, a new development model will have to be drawn up to enable Europe to be competitive over the next 15 years. The US and China are also investing heavily in development. At the same time, Renew Europe is also working to maintain the rule of law, as well as bringing social and democratic issues to the fore. According to Šarec, Renew Europe is also facing a great responsibility, as the EU needs a liberal centre in the wider area, and at the same time he expressed his satisfaction about the work and international visibility of MEPs Joveva and Grošelj.

Green policy and sustainable solutions are also among Renew Europe’s main priorities. Séjourné said they wanted to achieve radical decarbonisation and strike the right balance while at the same time adopting the right measures to help the economy. For Grošelj, the biggest challenge in terms of achieving carbon neutrality by 2050 is securing sufficient investments in research and development, which is also one of the anchors of the LMŠ programme. “The research and development findings need to be translated into new technologies that will spur new ideas, create new high-quality jobs, and provide high personal income that will be sustainable, as well as public education and public health. In doing this, the European Parliament will play an extremely important role; it will set a common legal framework, and this will be a driver of further development and progressive policies.”

Speakers also touched on the rule of law. Grošelj believes that it is the cornerstone of the European Union, but some leaders are tearing it down, so regulators must invent ever-new regulations. Séjourné highlighted the functioning of the independent media and the judiciary:

“If the media is not free and judges – who decide on election-related appeals – are not free, then the election cannot not be fair.”

In his view, the rule of law mechanism must act primarily as a deterrent – to deter some other European leaders from acting foolishly. Grošelj pointed to the need for independence of state and regulatory institutions that scrutinise the work of the executive, “If there is no rule of law, then the state cannot function, but it is the choice of each individual politician as to what they will do.”

Joveva also mentioned the division that exists in the political and civil spheres in Slovenia, “They say no one should be excluded, while they are doing exactly that with those who criticise them. They talk about communists being to blame for everything in this world, let alone in our country, while using those very same methods themselves.” Šarec believes that Slovenia is not divided into two equal parts, “Seventy-five per cent of people think along centrist lines and entirely in line with EU values. They don’t care about politics enough to fight about it. That can only happen if someone provokes it.” At the same time, everyone thinks it is important, above all, to have a forward-looking view.

Stéphane Séjourné also commented on current developments in Ukraine by saying, “Diplomacy has done everything to avoid the events that could happen in Ukraine in the coming days. The talks must go on, but serious sanctions must also be adopted which are being discussed at the EU level at the moment.” He said that despite the government control of the media, public opinion in Russia is not sympathetic to what is going on in Ukraine:

“President Putin is a man of the 20^th century, he is nostalgic and misses Russia’s greatness. He uses the tricks of old dictatorships, which have already failed, for instance, the manipulation of public opinion and of elections.”

Séjourné believes that the Ukrainian crisis is about the borders of the European Union and that we are also defending the Ukrainian people and their right to sovereignty and self-determination. Concerns are also justified for the Baltic states bordering Russia.

At the end of the round-table discussion, Stéphane Séjourné added, “At the moment, there are two different visions of society. We wish to avoid slipping into illiberalism or the decline of certain countries. I don’t want to dramatize it, but it’s really a referendum. These elections have a European momentum. We need to mobilise and motivate young people, who are difficult to engage today, because democracy is taken for granted. We were born into it, and we don’t know what it’s like to live without democracy. We must say that what we have achieved is the result of national struggles, revolutions, and the struggle for the independence of countries. We can lose all of this very quickly – we can see the instability in Russia and Ukraine and how societies can change completely. It’s always easier to demolish than to build.”

 

It is important to get experience. One absolutely needs experience. Who will hire you if you haven’t got professional experience? Experience, experience, experience… Work experience is of high value. Of course, it can be, but bills, too, can literally be of high value. And experience will not cover them.

The European Commission dedicated 2022 to young people. Let us have the European Year of Youth, it said. Great! It is right to put young people at the heart of European policy-making. This should be the case even in the absence of the pandemic, which has robbed them of so many opportunities.

We talk a lot about young people in the European Parliament. A considerable number of documents, resolutions, reports, acts and pieces of legislation are adopted in this regard. During this plenary session, we voted on the report entitled Empowering European youth – post-pandemic employment and social recovery. This is precisely because of the designation of this year as the European Year of Youth.

Basically, the document is a very good starting point for young people. It addresses the importance of strengthening European youth, investing in them, developing specific programmes to tackle youth unemployment and promoting new solutions for their social inclusion. It offers young people opportunities aimed at facilitating labour market inclusion, developing skills for the future, improving integration and access to education.

Great! But unfortunately, the report contains a huge black mark. The unpaid (!!!) traineeships. This is what I am referring to in the first paragraph.

The issue of unpaid traineeships has been on the EU’s agenda for many years now, but it has never been resolved once and for all. This is largely due to the proponents of the laissez-faire principle and of economic (neo)liberalism, who argue that the state cannot and should not interfere with the economy. The proponents of unpaid traineeships justify their position by arguing — listen to this — that young people willingly choose this form of work. 🤨

Such people seem to regard every individual in the jobs market as equal, but at the same time they are deliberately oblivious to the obvious inequalities between them.

The fact is that during their education – and later, during their first job search – young people are placed in a very uncomfortable position. They are forced to do unpaid traineeships through forms of soft coercion. Either because their educational programme requires them to undertake a traineeship in order to graduate successfully, or because, when entering the labour market, potential employers require them to have work experience before they can even get their first job. A paradox in all its glory.

Traineeships are not a choice. Fifty per cent of all young people in the EU undertake unpaid traineeships. And as we know that doing a traineeship is in reality doing the work of a regular employee, this half of young people are deprived of their rights and taken advantage of by employers.

What is more, unpaid traineeships perpetuate the cycle of “privilege for the privileged”. Why? Because it is only middle- and upper-class people who do not have to worry about rent, food, transport and all other living costs who can afford to undertake unpaid traineeships. But if a student cannot afford to work without being paid, they are automatically deprived of the skills that would enable them to get a better job in the future. This puts them in a fundamentally unequal position. So much for the argument of equality of individuals in the labour market.

Young people MUST have equal opportunities. And a PAID traineeship is a step in the right direction.

During this term, we have already taken an important step towards abolishing unpaid traineeships in October 2020, when we voted on this in the context of the Youth Guarantee Resolution. At that time, I was proud to see 574 votes in favour of ending unpaid traineeships. Today, however, I am deeply disappointed. Firstly, because the report allowed unpaid traineeships in the first place, and even more so because the amendment calling for their ban was not supported in yesterday’s vote.

Absolutely unbelievable. It is utterly shameful that we have taken such a retrograde step, particularly in the current situation.

If years are being dedicated to the young generation, then we must prove all the more that we care. This time we have failed. But I believe that we — the ones who REALLY care — will succeed one day.

— IRENA

Foto: Neboje Tejić/STA

On Wednesday, 2 February 2022, MEP Irena Joveva hosted the President of the LMŠ party, Marjan Šarec, in a “live” conversation on her Instagram profile @ijoveva. In a relaxed atmosphere, they gave their unfiltered and uncensored replies to the questions posed by followers.

They started by answering a question about the things they miss most from their life before politics.  “There are many things… I was more relaxed, I could do things more freely, and I miss all the people I worked with before I entered politics,” said Marjan Šarec, and Irena Joveva could only agree with him about the people she misses. She added that from a professional point of view, she also misses fieldwork as a journalist, when she could research, do interviews and write contributions. They recalled Irena’s entry into politics and Šarec was frank: “It’s no secret, I was the instigator. I called her and asked whether she would be the lead candidate for the European elections. When she answered, I knew that this was it, that this was the right decision. I will certainly never regret it.” They also noted that the experience of the past often comes in handy. For Joveva, her knowledge of broader political topics and the necessary rhetoric skills: “In the European Parliament, we have about one minute to speak or debate. I have experience of live reporting that was of the same length, so I find it much easier than my colleagues to summarise what I mean in that one minute.’

Since they have been in politics, the main source of satisfaction for both of them has been people’s response to their work. Joveva is keeping her campaign promise that she is there for the people who sent her to Brussels: “When you know that you have helped someone, answered their question or helped in a more concrete way, submitted a question for the Commission, asked a fellow politician a question, raised a topic in a meeting, submitted an amendment and thus actually changed the legislation.” Šarec added: “Irena and I both come from a working-class or farming background, our lives have not always been a walk in the park and we know that effort has to be put in to achieve results. Nothing has been given to us for free. This is also how we approach our work in politics. I don’t like snobbery and pretentiousness, I have always been happiest when I have been able to have direct contact with people.” Politics, he says, reveals who you really are.

The next part of the conversation was devoted to answering the questions submitted by followers. Instagram is a “social network for the young”, but the audience was nevertheless interested in substantive and very specific areas. The first question was about the current and possible new electoral system, which has always been one of the most important issues for the LMŠ party. A bill was previously drafted during the government led by Šarec which introduced a majority system, preferential voting and the abolition of electoral districts, but unfortunately, due to the purely personal interests of some deputies, it was not adopted. “As long as the electoral system isn’t changed and it continues to be complicated, distant from the people and prevents them from playing a decisive role in the selection of deputies, there will be no political change in Slovenia. The electoral system we are advocating could also address the issue of recalling a deputy, which is currently impossible,” Šarec explained.

Housing, especially for young people, is another issue that can no longer be swept under the carpet. Marjan Šarec described the LMŠ efforts in this direction so far:

“Under our government, we prepared a housing loan guarantee act. We also wanted to transfer to the bad bank the land on which the bank Asset Management Company would build apartments. Our party programme also contains a proposal about the creation of housing cooperatives based on foreign models, as this has proven a good solution. It contains the regulation of short-term rentals, the possibility of buying the first owner-occupied home with repayment through rent, and the strengthening of the public housing stock. But we also need to enable young people to enter the labour market as quickly as possible, as this is the only way to get a loan.”

Šarec and Joveva also touched upon the “Magyarisation of Slovenia”. They both see a solution in taking part in the elections of 24 April 2022. It is important to remember that there are no perfect candidates. “Somebody has to be given a vote and then be held accountable,” said Šarec.  He believes that the current Prime Minister has become a servant of Budapest and Slovenia a vassal state. During this term, the LMŠ has set up two inquiry commissions to investigate illegal appointments within the police and suspicious procurement of protective equipment, respectively. If necessary, it will set up a new one in the next term to investigate hotel sales:

“All these transactions will need to be audited and all harmful laws repealed. As LMŠ, we are uncompromising when it comes to corruption and investigation. We will certainly demand audits, and we can do this as we owe nobody any favours.”

Joveva and Šarec are also aware of the problems in public health care. According to Marjan Šarec, pay increases in only one salary group will cause major problems and chaos. He believes that the remuneration system needs to be regulated anew in a systemic and complete manner: “The first task the next government will need to tackle will be to negotiate with trade unions, as was the case in 2018.” The shortage of family doctors is a problem that can only be solved in the long term. In addition to corruption, Šarec also sees a problem in the organisation of work and “amphibian practice” which allows some doctors not to contribute as much as they could to the public system, and instead work in their private self-pay outpatient clinics in the afternoon. In addition, supplementary health insurance should be abolished, as it has long since become compulsory if one wishes to benefit from the full basket of healthcare services.

Meanwhile, the COVID-19 epidemic has not only exposed problems in the health care sector, but also the confusion thrown up by the measures dictated by the government. Šarec and Joveva agreed that, during the pandemic, the authorities’ communication with citizens was the primary problem. Šarec advocates softer measures in dealing with the epidemic, such as distancing, masks, hand and cough hygiene, self-testing of everyone, including those who have been vaccinated, and strict adherence to quarantine.  However, he does not support compulsory vaccination. He added that, as a result, the LMŠ would not be able to work with parties that oppose all COVID measures, even if some people should find this a good idea.

Šarec and Joveva also touched on the need for a transition to a knowledge-based society, for development and digitalisation of society. “In the LMŠ programme, we have devoted many measures to digitalisation and even foreseen a new Ministry of Science, Research and Digital Transformation.” They commended some systems already in place and highlighted the numerous areas where there is an urgent need for the system to be revamped and upgraded, especially as regards services to citizens. “We still have children who do not have access to the internet, and as long as this is the case, it is difficult to talk about a digital society,” Šarec maintained, adding that the LMŠ programme foresees an increase in funding for science, research and development, with the aim of allocating to these areas up to 1.5% of GDP by 2026.

Finally, Šarec and Joveva urged people to read the LMŠ programme, which is available on the party’s website. As questions continued to come in, they decided to hold another conversation in the near future. In the meantime, you are welcome to watch the recording on  Irena Joveva’s Instagram profile.